FLORIDA COORDINATING COUNCIL
FOR THE DEAF AND HARD OF HEARING
Education/Medical/Outreach/Technology (EMOT) Committee Teleconference
Thursday, September 19, 2019 
6:00 p.m.

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>> CINDY SIMON:  Hi, Gina. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Hey, Miss Cindy.  How are you?  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Good.  Are you okay with the agenda?  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Oh, yeah, anything you do is okay with me.  Yeah.
I'm trying to get these headphones to work so I can, you know, not have to hold the phone and I can't get anything to work, so I'm not going to be able to write very much while we're talking. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Just put it on speaker.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Yeah, I will.  That's a good idea. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  I'm sitting at a desk, I have my phone on speaker.  I'm in Las Vegas. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Oh, wow!  Okay.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  By the time this went out, I already scheduled another meeting because there was nothing definitive yet.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Oh, okay.  I thought we had set it on this date a while back ‑‑ oh, that's right, you're right, we had to wait for everybody to answer; you're right. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Yeah.  We never got any answers for a definitive date, and by the time we got it, I had this set up weeks ago. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Yeah, you're right, you're right.  Okay.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  And my stuff comes up in a short time sometimes. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Yeah.  But I know ‑‑ 

[Talking over one another]. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  What?  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  How is the weather there?  

>> CINDY SIMON:  It's fun.  It's sunny.  It's 84 degrees.  I could be home, but it's dryer.
I know it looks like it's a really long agenda, but it isn't.  It was just everything that was mentioned that you wanted, I spent ‑‑ that's why it took so long to come out, because it was forever reading through the minutes ‑‑ not just the minutes, but the entire CART.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Yeah. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  And going through sections ‑‑ 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  It looks like you got everything, though.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  I tried.  

[Talking over one another]. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  ‑‑ we could do either/or.  Some we talked about and we may decide that's the way to go, or we may want to present to the Council that where it goes from where I sent out is where we had the long‑range planning.  So I don't know.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Yeah.
Well, it's 6:00 o'clock so we can get started [laughs].  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Okay.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Do we have a list of our service providers?  

>> CINDY SIMON:  We have to thank them.  Lisa, is that you on CART?  

>> LISA (CART CAPTIONER):  Good evening, this is Lisa on CART.  Hi, everyone.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Hi, Lisa.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Hi, Lisa.  As always, thank you so much, you do such an awesome job all the time.  

>> LISA (CART CAPTIONER):  Thank you, Cindy. 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  This is Darlene, I'm here.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Hi, Darlene!  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  How are y'all doing?  

>> CINDY SIMON:  We're good.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  We have Darlene, Cindy, and Gina online.  Lisa's on CART.  And if I could remind everybody to please mute your phone.  You can do star two to mute your phone when you're not talking.  And raise your hand is star nine if there's something that you want to say.  I think that puts a little signal in so we know who to talk.  Okay?  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Are you sure it's star two?  

[Talking over one another]. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  That's what?  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  That's what the conference menu said when I dialed in.  It said if you want to know the options and that's what it said for this particular meeting.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Okay.  Just so you know, everybody always says to hit the mute button, but if you're on a landline, you can't do that, because not all landlines have mute buttons.  

[Pause]. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Okay.  Cindy, do you want to start?  You did such a great job. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Ha.  Do we have any ‑‑ do we have any sign interpreters?  Do we know?  Do you have a list so we can thank them?  Or anyone interpreting online?

[No response]. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  This is Gina.  My understanding is, that we don't have anyone online who needs the services of an interpreter.  If I'm wrong, speak up.  Go ahead.

[No response]. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  All right.  Otherwise, if you are there, we are going to thank you even if we don't know who you are.
So, this is September 19, 2019, it's 6:03 in the evening, I believe, and this is an EMOT Committee conference call.
Do we ‑‑ at the moment we have Gina on the phone, Cindy on the phone, and Darlene on the phone.
Do we need to make a motion to adopt the agenda or can we just say that's fine?

[No response]. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Anyone?  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  This is Gina.  I'm fine with it.  Darlene, did you have any questions about the agenda?

[No response]. 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Do I have any questions about the what?  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Agenda.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Oh, no, no, it's fine.  Thank you.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Okay.  That's fine.
So, do we know if Tiffany was planning on being here or not?  

[Pause]. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  This is Gina.  It's my understanding that she was going to be.  But in this last e‑mail that she sent out, it does not indicate that she will.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Okay.  All right.  If anything came in today, I don't know, because I was on a plane.
So, one of the things that we talked about at the last meeting was regarding shall we do a quarterly newsletter or, as Mary brought up, do we want to stick with the series of brochures we had talked about?
We had talked about way back public comments in summaries but I think that could be incorporated in a very brief newsletter.  And do we want to do it in paper or do it as an e‑blast?
Some of the thoughts about the newsletters, and this is why we can go through the agenda fairly quickly, we can summarize the meetings, or even pick a specific topic and summarize any public comment on a quarterly basis.
Do we want to do it electronically or deliver it by paper?
Any thoughts on that?  

[Pause]. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  I know I think a very short one to two‑page quarterly summary is just fine, but I don't know how everyone else feels and whether you feel it should be electronic, paper, or both.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  This is Gina.  I would vote for electronic.  

[Pause]. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Okay.  Darlene, do you have a preference?  

[Pause]. 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  I'm sorry, I had that on mute.  You're talking about the quarterly meeting to start it?  Can you repeat?  Because I'm having a hard time getting the CART. 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  Good afternoon, you guys, I finally joined.  I was having trouble; I was on the phone with the gentleman who is supposed to be helping me get that, the man from the conference company.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Yeah, it knocked me out the first time as an invalid number. 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  It did that to me too.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  And when I dialed in the second time, it accepted it.  

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  Okay.  Well, mine was, like, the sixth time, but it's [laughs]....
Hi, who is here so far, please?  

>> CINDY SIMON:  So we have myself, Cindy; Gina; and Darlene.  And we were just saying was Tiffany going to be here and we thought you were planning on it.  

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  Yes. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  So we're all the way down to item five. 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  Okay.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  I think that we decided it would be a brief one to two‑page newsletter.  The preference was electronic.
But I was reiterating this for Darlene.
So, Darlene, what we were saying is if we did a quick one to two‑page little thing every quarter, and it could contain both a summary of the meeting, any public comment we want to put in there, and one of the things that had been suggested was maybe even, depending on the season and what's going on in the state, to put something, you know, a tips area, like during hurricane season, what to do in the case of a hurricane.  Someone had suggested doing parents' rights during the school year.  Those were all suggestions from Glenna.  Maybe we could highlight organizations.  It can vary.
So, that was what we were saying, Darlene.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  I know this ‑‑ 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Does that ‑‑ 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  I'm trying to get on the right track here with what you said.  Disability Rights of Florida is willing to work with us to help, you know, to get some ‑‑ not resolutions, but to get the word out there about what to do regarding interpreting and things like that.  So... 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Right.  So that would be another topic that could be put in the newsletter.  And they could actually have someone write a short blurb on that and we could put it in, along with a reference, if someone had a call for more information.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Exactly.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Or that's how I would see it.
I did copy from our action items exactly what was said here, what was put on there, but I think all of that was covered in what we were just talking about.

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  Okay. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  So, Tiffany, for you, we're all the way down to the comments already.  I told you it would take no time, because it's all part of the same thing.  

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  Okay.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  You know, this is Gina.  Has anybody given any thought to perhaps us having, like, little video blogs, you know, little vlogs that we have online, be it YouTube or on our website of this very same information that you're talking about, Cindy?
It could be like a vlog newsletter, along with the electronic, so it's always there, a person could go back and, you know, view the archives and see what was discussed and what was summarized.
What are your thoughts on that?  

>> CINDY SIMON:  I think it's nice for those who like to see those and who do use those.
I don't see a problem combining the two and having one as a compilation, the vlog as a compilation of the newsletter.
I don't know the State's position on it.  So, Tiffany, do you know anything about that?  

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  About ‑‑ well, I know that in my discussion on the action items, I know that the website that is part of DOH does not actually have pictures on it, they don't put that on there, so this would have to be specifically on the Facebook page that you all take care of there, if there's going to be any kind of videos that come up on there.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  So, Gina, I think that's your answer.  Unless you want to put it on Facebook, and I don't know that anyone goes ‑‑ that the people we want to reach are going there.  It may be a mute point.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  This is Gina.  Cindy, didn't, at the last meeting that I was at, I think it was Debbe, is Debbe the one that's managing the Facebook page?  Is that correct?  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Yes, she's one of them.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  I am too.  This is Darlene, I am too.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Okay.  So, Darlene, what are your thoughts on that, on having, like, little vlog clips on Facebook about the kind of things that we're highlighting here?  Like, specific topics, specific summaries, that kind of thing.  What are your thoughts on that?  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  I don't think it would be a problem to put it on there.  The way the page is set up, it has certain areas, like you can put in events, news, things like that, and different tabs that they have on the page.  

[Pause]. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Okay, that sounds ‑‑ I mean, I think it's reasonable.  We can certainly bring it up to the big group, you know. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Yeah, we can ‑‑ 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  I think that would ‑‑ some people are very visual and auditory, you know, they don't ‑‑ you know, they don't take time to really read e‑mails [chuckles] but they might look, you know, look at a vlog of information when they're interested.  Just a thought.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  And are these vlogs going to be signed as well?  Because you can't just do one modality, so we have to account for everyone.
And we need to check with Darlene the best way for those who have visual issues to see them.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  I think that's a great thing to look into; sure.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Okay. 

[Pause]. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Darlene, this is Gina.  You mentioned earlier the Disability Rights of Florida would help us in getting the word out.  Could you talk to them about their thoughts, about having, like, vlog information?  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Are you talking about Disability Rights of Florida?  Is that what you're saying?  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Correct, yes, ma'am.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  I talked to the Disability Rights of Florida, I talked to a young woman there, I explained what we were trying to do to set up a way of having a contact person for each department to address the concerns that come up during public comment.
And she told me that they would ‑‑ they would be interested in being a part of that.
But she also said feel free to give the consumers our ‑‑

[Background noise on telephone]. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Okay, that sounds good.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  What happened?  Are you there?  

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  Are we looking for me?  I'm still here. 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  I'm sorry, this is Darlene, because it came back at me saying "Press star two, star one," all that.
Did you understand what I said?  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  This is Gina.  Yes, I did.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Okay.  

[Pause]. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Are we moving on to the last topic, the creation of a newsletter?  That's the last topic on the agenda.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Well, well, I think that that's what we were just saying, and I think that a little of everything was good and I think we have to be tactile and be prepared to do that and I think we can create a summary, a very short summary of any major issues that came up at the quarterly meeting, and then have something, we might want to mention something about the speakers we had, and then as was suggested, because that's what this newsletter is, it was just ‑‑ I copied that from the action items, but all of that was really in the above.
So, we could have a standard list of resources.  We could have a tips area and vary the tips each quarter, like was suggested during hurricane season, what to do, what to do in an emergency, during a school year, parents' rights, how they can find out what they're entitled to, et cetera.
And therefore we could actually decide around each meeting, because we don't know what to put in until we do the meeting.  If we had a speaker like we had from Disability Rights, we may want to put that in, but then there are others we may not feel would be edifying if we put them in. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Cindy, I like your train of thought and sending out information and that kind of thing to council members because I find quite often that people will ask information and say what is the Council doing and it would be great to have that in the arsenal to be able to forward, you know, to any interested party.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Right. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  So I like that idea. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  So that's, regarding where to go, we talked a long time ago before most people were on the Council about maybe our constituent organizations, but maybe also the areas up in Tallahassee, the different agencies, a list of those, Tiffany, I sent you everything I had.
So one of those documents had a list of the agencies that John Jackson came up with who we would want to try to partner with, have reciprocity regarding the website, et cetera.
How does that sound to you guys?
And then we can go back and revisit that and maybe the next meeting John is at, he could reiterate what he thinks would be the best current thing to do.
Just so you guys know, I did reapply.  There is another audiologist who applied.  I actually know the other audiologist.
So this could be the last time I am on a call with you guys on this committee.  Depending on who gets the appointment.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Well ‑‑ 

[Talking over one another]. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  I'm not buying that. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  What?  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  I think you should still be with us. 

[Laughter]. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Whatever.  I don't know.  Typically people don't come back and they're not on there.  So unless somebody has any ins with the Governor to say go pick this one, guess what?  I could be gone.  So I just wanted to make you guys aware of it, because I've done so much on so many of these things, someone else is going to have to pick it up.  

[Pause]. 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Okay. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Okay.  Well, I'm going to believe that you're still going to be here.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  I agree with Gina, Jenna.
I wanted to say that I am ‑‑ I am still in the midst of editing a letter that we had talked about during the meeting to contact, it should be agencies, to ask for contact persons that we can contact if we have anything come up on public comments that we need more information on.
So I'm working on that.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  So, Darlene, just to make your life easier, and Tiffany, to make your life a little more difficult, once we decide on the agencies and using each other's links to the website, I might suggest that Tiffany just call each agency individually, introduce herself, maybe even set up a visit with them to talk about us, and get a contact person.
I think that if they get an e‑mail or a letter, it's gonna be put on the side and we're not going to get a response.
When you make a phone call ‑‑ and we're only talking 12‑15 places.
So, I would say if it were me, that it's easier to do that.
How do you guys feel about it?  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  I think it's ‑‑ this is Darlene ‑‑ I think it would be a good idea to have Tiffany call, because it would be more of a personal‑type thing and encourage them to work with us and whatever we can to help ease any concerns and all that kind of stuff. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  And maybe when she gets through, we can create a follow‑up letter that summarizes the points that she made.  So that would be your letter going out, but to get to that point, I just think it's easier to make the call.  

[Pause]. 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Okay, sounds good.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Anyone else ‑‑ 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  I agree.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Gina?  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  No, I agreed, because most of us prefer to talking to a person than texting and it's kind of like the same thing, where you have the personal touch.  Tiffany, from everything asking and she is an excellent representative and spokesperson on what we do and I think having her being the voice and the face and the contact and getting, like you say, a specific contact person from these different organizations is just going to take us way, way down the road.  It would really be helpful.
And I know, Tiffany, you probably have a whole lot on your plate and you're probably saying, you know, "You all leave me alone!" [Chuckles].  But I think it would be a great idea. 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  No, I think it would be wonderful.  And thank you for that vote of confidence there. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  And Tiffany, if you go through the things I sent you and go to the search box and look for John Jackson's name, you may be able to find the agencies that he specifically suggested when we were doing that.  So we actually had target agencies already down, rather than reinventing the wheel.
Although it may be easier to do that than find that information.  But that was a lot of information I had. 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  I will look for it.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  This is Darlene.  I wanted to say, you were talking about the newsletter earlier.  One of the things I would suggest during the first newsletter is to put on there the law about the medical providers having to buy ‑‑ having to buy? ‑‑ having to get interpreters.
There is a law that medical providers have to follow, Florida law.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  So, Darlene, yes, you are correct, Darlene.
And, again, like we said, we would have little tips and target things and that could be the first one.  We'll be out of hurricane season, it's past the beginning of school, so that's a good time to put in, "Do you know your rights?"  You know, when you see a medical provider, you are entitled for them to provide the effective communication in a manner that you prefer and it is their responsibility, and then you can cite it and that could be one of our little item blurbs.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Right, you're right.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  And this is Gina.  In conjunction with that, I think we should have a tip as to what to do if those rights are violated.  And I don't mean being very specific, you know, call Sharon or call Tiffany, but a general statement that there is recourse if your rights are violated and what kind of documentation is needed to be successful in getting the right remedies. 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Right, I agree.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  I think we had a discussion on that.  And we're not allowed to say anything or suggest anything that would hint going after anyone.
All you can do is recommend and refer them to read whatever the information is or call the numbers in order to find out what they can do if they feel their rights have been violated.
But we can't really say anything or espouse anything.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Yeah. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  That was my understanding when we talked at the meeting.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  In other words, you can just say if you need more information about your rights, call Disability Rights. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Or if you ‑‑ yeah, or if you feel your rights have been violated, you know, you can follow through here and you can maybe give a website and/or a phone number.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  That's what I meant.  I didn't ‑‑ yeah, that's what I meant, just give them a ‑‑ point them in the direction of where to get more information, if they feel they've been violated.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  So that could be our goal for the first one, if we try to get one out after the next meeting.
And we can start preparing it now; maybe have another conference ‑‑ maybe, Tiffany, if it's not so much, we can give you direction on it, tell you what to summarize, and then you can come up with something and we can evaluate it, go over it with you, and then pass it through the rest of the Council before sending out.
And we can't do it until after the meeting, because we don't know what else will come up at the next meeting.  

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  I spoke about this with my supervisor about my part in the newsletter, if you guys were planning to put one together.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Uh‑huh. 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  And it was somewhat specific that I'm allowed to compile whatever you all have written and put it in a format that can be put out to a newsletter, but I'm not able to write or provide any input into it, because then that is coming from DOH.  So it has to be coming from the Council specifically.
So I can compile ‑‑ 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Okay.  

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  ‑‑ it and put it in the order that you guys want, but it can't come from me. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Okay.  You guys, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to be leaving within the next couple minutes. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Okay. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  For my meeting to start.  Do you want me to touch on the PSA very briefly?  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Yeah, touch on the PSA.  And we can also reschedule another conference all to finish this up, Cindy.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Yes, we can, but we ‑‑ I think we just agreed there's going to be a newsletter, you want to ‑‑ I'm just summarizing here ‑‑ we're going to do a short newsletter.  The content will vary, but essentially it will be a quick summary.  Any public comment, any speakers of note, and maybe a tips section that varies, beginning with the concept that physicians have to supply effective communication during the patient visit.
And we decided it's going to be by e‑mail.  And we're going to try to find all the agencies in the state that we should be partnering with, as well as maybe sending it to our constituents, organizations, and that's it, until we present this to the Council as a summary of today's meeting.
In terms of the PSA, it's not going anywhere with what was done.
I do have copies of the original one as well as the one when the State was doing it.
I spoke to Tiffany.  I actually still have the quotes back when they were going to do it the first time when we were putting it out for bid, so my understanding is that to get it done, we have to put it out for bid.
And do we want to go on with that?  Or do we want to go back to the concept of doing just the brochures?  And maybe doing brochures on different topics and popping it out one to two times a year?  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Hmm... what are your thoughts, Darlene?  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Well, I know that we are trying to set up a website meeting and I was wondering if during that website meeting, maybe we can touch on some of this, to see how we can use the website some.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Okay.  And then you'll just report back out to us?  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Pardon me?  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Then you would just report back out to us, the summary of what you guys come up with?  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  I'm waiting for Tiffany, I think, was supposed to find out a date to set up the Website Committee meeting. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Okay. 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  And I was thinking about talking about Facebook and possibly talking about putting the newsletter on the website.
So, by the time we have the Website Committee, maybe we can have some answers from David from IT to see if that's possible.  If it's pictures, it might be that we need to put it in text format.  I'm not sure.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Yeah, but, my understanding was that we're talking about a PSA that was not finished with the filming.  The person is no longer there for it.  And my understanding from the meeting was that we have to put it out for bid if we want to produce it.
So, my question is do we still want to go through this?  All these years we started, it doesn't get finished, it's on the back burner.  This has been going on since before any of you were even on this Council, and so do we want to forego that in favor of either informational brochures or just assume it's piled in with the newsletters?
Because don't forget, if we do it, we have to get it filmed and then the State was going to find us the spot on TV or radio and/or.
And if they're not doing it anymore, then ‑‑ unless Tiffany wants to go through all of that, it doesn't make any sense.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Right.  If they ‑‑ it would be ‑‑ it would be an effort if they would just take what's there and go and use it.
I don't know why they're not wanting to do that.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Well, we didn't finish it, Darlene.  There was still two more to film.  I do have all the information.  We couldn't find two more.
What happened was we had some people and then he was uncomfortable with someone faking it, so he eliminated it, because one of those is my husband. 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Oh. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  And so we had everything up to a point with two individuals still missing.
I did find the individuals in real life for him.  He was supposed to come down to South Florida, and never did.
So, we really don't have it to give them.  I don't even know if we have what was done, period.  Or if we can even get it.  So... 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  This is Darlene.  Has he been paid?  

>> CINDY SIMON:  He wasn't getting paid; it was part of the State. 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Oh, okay.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  That's what I'm saying.  That's why we don't have it.  In the past, if we were paying someone, we would have it.
And the State was gonna go find the stations.
The last time this Council had a PSA, which is going back somewhere around 2007, 2008, that was when Mary Grace was there and she's the one who found all of that or worked with getting people to find it for us and setting it up.
So, unless Tiffany wants to do that, I feel like we've been spinning our wheels so many times, that maybe doing the brochures and having, like, two or three brochures with topics similar to the last one that we did get accomplished, the last brochure was done because the State decided they're not doing any PSAs and wouldn't give us permission, so we took my original PSA and put it in a brochure format.
So, I believe someone was just going to check the links and update it, and everyone was comfortable with keeping that.
Was I ‑‑ is that right, Tiffany?  If I remember correctly.  

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  I am not privy to that information; I'm not sure about that. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  No, it came up in the meeting, it was in the meeting.  It should be somewhere in the minutes.  But I remember discussing it at a couple of meetings, either one on this committee, the last one, which you might want to read the CART of, or at the council meeting.  Mary brought it up and said we agreed on this, because she was at the last one.
And so, with that, I ‑‑ 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  You're talking about using of the brochure that we had and then resetting up the brochure?  

>> CINDY SIMON:  No, we were talking about doing brochures on different topics.  Maybe one on children and education, you know, that one ‑‑ 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  Oh, yes, I remember that. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  ‑‑ was that no matter what, be able, that you should see a hearing healthcare professional. 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  I remember that. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  We talked about doing another one on something else.
And so it came up on the last brochure and someone said that some of the links weren't current.  So we had talked about just updating it a little and keeping it as it is.
But if we're going to have a Tally Day, Rally in Tally, maybe rather than putting our efforts into that PSA, having two or three brochures on different topics ‑‑ 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  Mmm‑hmm.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  ‑‑ would be better that can be given out in Tally.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Yeah, I agree with you, Cindy, because there's so much information and so many different areas to cover.
For example, the deaf‑blind area. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Right.  We can do ‑‑ you're right, Darlene.  We can do one entire brochure for the deaf‑blind, but make it so that depending on where you are, what stage, so how much you have of one or the other, you know, people need different resources depending on what they have.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Yes, definitely.  And what's available at that time, because technology is constantly changing.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Yes.  And so ‑‑ 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  This is Gina.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Go on, Gina.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  I just don't want you to be late for your meeting, because if you have another meeting to go to ‑‑ 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Well, I can stay ‑‑ I do, but here's what I was going to say.  Can we say we agree to put a PSA on the back burner now, rather than going out to get all of this, on the assumption that we get our Rally in Tally as Karen, our Chair, would like and our efforts would better be into having not one giant thing with all these things on it, but maybe three simple brochures that we can give out while we're in Tally?  Possibly four, and we can pick the topics. 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Even like a bookmarker, you know, they did that with the guide dogs. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Oh, that's cute!  The bookmarkers, I like that, the bookmarkers.  That's cute.  For those who use books anymore and not e‑book. 

[Laughter]. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Oh my goodness.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Anyway, I do have to go.  I tried to be here for the majority of the agenda.  Tiffany, I promised you it wouldn't take that long because it was all related.  

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  That's fine, it's okay.  I'm here.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  So, are you guys good with me signing off?  Unless you want to adjourn, that we've decided on this, and we can set up the next meeting to maybe discuss the topics to present.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  I'd second that motion.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  And I second it, yes.  

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  May I ‑‑ may I ask you guys a question?  If anybody in this group, just a reminder, is in the Website Committee also, please go to the e‑mail that I sent asking what day would be best for you.  All you do is click on which day is good for you and send it right back.  Because that's what Darlene is waiting for, to be able to plan that meeting.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Yeah, Tiffany, I'm not on the Web Committee. 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  Okay. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  Neither am I. 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  All right, good.  I just wanted to make sure if anybody was, that would be ‑‑ just in case you're on dual committees.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Okay.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Okay.  So meeting is adjourned at 6:42.  You guys have a blessed day. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  First I would like to thank Lisa for the job she does as always.  And there's so much going on, keeping track of who's who, because we did not announce who we were.
So thank you, Lisa.  You are much appreciated.  

>> LISA (CART CAPTIONER):  Thank you!

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  I second that, this is Gina. 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  I third it. 

[Laughter]. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  And Lisa says thank you, if no one's on CART ‑‑ I am ‑‑ and Lisa says thank you.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Okay.  

>> CINDY SIMON:  All right, everyone.  I need to run.
I think this is maybe a second record for shortest meeting ever to get so much done. 

[Laughter]. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Well, that's because you're a good host, Cindy!  

>> CINDY SIMON:  Uh... I don't know about that, but... 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Well, I do!  

>> CINDY SIMON:  We try. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Okay. 

>> CINDY SIMON:  All right, everyone.  Have a great weekend!  And I'm off and running.  Thank you all.  

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Thank you. 

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Thank you. 

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  Thank you for coming. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Bye‑bye.  

>> DARLENE LAIBL‑CROWE:  Bye. 

>> GINA HALLIBURTON:  Bye, Darlene, bye, Tiffany, bye, Lisa.  

>> TIFFANY BAYLOR:  Bye‑bye.

[Concludes at 6:45 p.m.]

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